Pursuing Your Dream Against All Odds | MAG0012

Grace Oben: 00:00:11

Hello, hello, hello wonderful people. Welcome back to Magnetize. Hey, so Grace Oben, and I have an amazing, amazing guests. You will be glad I had her today on Magnetize. And without any further ado, I'm going to introduce the beautiful, amazing Tirzah. Hi, Tirzah, how are you? I hope they'll pronounce your name well. Correct. So how are you doing? Welcome to Magnetize I'm really excited to have you here. You are an amazing person I met you when you spoke last year. And I just said I must have this lady on my podcast because she is pregnant with ideas. Amazing, amazing idea. So why don't you tell us about one of your great invention.

Tirzah Adrian: 00:01:16

Thank you so much for having me Grace, this is just a complete honor. I loved your speech as well. And when you messaged me asking to be on here, I was just so blown away and honored that you would ask me, so thank you for that. So as Gray said, my name is Tirzah. And I recently launched my business that is called Zwapifi. So it's actually a swapping app that I launched in Alberta. And there's a huge story behind it. But basically, I grew up in the family business watching my dad barter, the bike shop was called Bentley recycling trading post. And he always would trade with people. And it just was how we lived how we grew up. And as I grew up and became an adult, and was trying to still use these skills, I realized how frustrating it was that there wasn't a platform, you know, a modern way of connecting with other people who really want to barter and trade. But there's so many people interested in doing it. But there wasn't an easy one to use. And people try to do it through Facebook, but it's a little bit awkward. And anyway, so I realized I'm like, you know, someone needs to do something about this. And I'm very much an action taker, which we just discussed, both of us are like, you just get an idea. And you go for it. And so I had this idea. And when I first looked into it, I was told the price tag of what it might cost. And I felt like somebody kicked me in the stomach. I'm like, I can't afford that. It's too much money. I said, I guess well, I guess I can't do it. And that thought made me sick to my stomach. And so I'm like, Okay, I know, this was an inspired idea. I have to do something with it. And despite every single possible hurdle. I am at this point now where a few months ago, I just launched my app in Alberta. So it's an incredibly exciting time. Yeah, that's, that's the short version.

Grace Oben: 00:03:07

So that you see, that's why I always say that if your mind or when what your mind comes, can conceive what your mind can conceive, you have the power, you have the ability to achieve it. And I'm so happy that you shared that because a lot of people would have like, this is not for me. I always say to people that failure is a feedback. It's kind of a feedback. When you do something that doesn't work out. It's just you just got a feedback, all you need to do is to pay attention to that feedback, and go back on the drawing board and say, What did I miss? What did I miss in all of this? But a lot of times some people feel like, Ah, this is not for me, because it didn't work out. It's not for me. But so let me ask you. So what does magnetizing your dream life means to you? And how did you discover these concepts?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:04:05

Well, that's a good question. I really believe that you don't get what you want in life, you get what you are. And it's like this, you are this magnet, the one side of the magnet in the universe, the world, your people around you, your business is the other side of that magnet. And so if you keep magnetizing crap into your life and bad experiences, in so many cases, you are getting what you are in some way somehow you're putting out something negative into the universe and you're gonna get it back. So magnetizing your dream life like if you truly are trying to do that. You have to do the inner work. You have to become the person that can handle that dream life like so many people wish they would win the lottery and skip the 1000s of steps between where they are and being rich. But look at the people that actually do win the lottery. They didn't become the person that can handle what they thought they wanted. and they lose it within a very short period of time. And so throughout this, it's taken me over two years to get to this point from conception to launching. And I have become a completely different person in that period of time. And I know, if I would have gotten my dream like I wanted, had my business launch, had my app ready, gotten that? Two days after I thought of it, I couldn't have handled it, I would not have been the person that could have held that. So I've had to become that person. That's kind of what I think of when you say that and ask that question. You have to actually become the person that can handle what you want, and then you will get what you want, because you're gonna magnetize it into your life.

Grace Oben: 00:05:41

That's so true. That's really true. It's so funny. Becoming is one of my favorite words. As a matter of I had one of my I did my women conference networking conference in 2020 22. And entitled, was becoming so that's one of my most favorite one. And I you know, what you said is so true. Because I always say, like you have, our vision is here, and we are somewhere, so that we have to come up and meet that vision for us to be able to accomplish, right, you have to become that person that is able to carry out that vision and bring that vision to fruition. Right? So what you said is just so true, and the process of becoming when you become that person, then you attract, right, everything that you need to carry out that vision. So what's your biggest obstacle? Or what's the biggest obstacle you've and counter? Overcome? And how did you do that? How did you navigate that?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:06:51

Um, that's a good question. I think I think what it was, is just knowing so clearly that this was what I was supposed to be doing. It didn't matter what hurdle came in my way. Um, I haven't really talked about this. But when I first started, I initially thought I was going to build a website for trading. So because I was gonna leave at the time, so I didn't have a big budget, I didn't have any budget. And I was able to find a couple of investors. And I found a guy that I had a couple of good reviews about that could build this website. He told me half the price of what someone else told me, I'm like, perfect, this is great. I went with him. And he disappeared, and I lost a lot of money. And that was my first experience in launching my business and trying to get this going. And it was a huge loss. And I, but I still haven't seen the money. I haven't heard from him in a couple years. Like he just disappeared. And so that was a hurdle. But I was like, in the moment, it was very frustrating. But I also knew I'm like, okay, something obviously something good has to come out of this. And it truly did. So I was redirected to someone else that was able to give me what I actually wanted when he wasn't going to be able to. So unfortunately, I wasted a lot of time with him a lot of money. But in the long run, I realized I need it. I don't need a website and his website wasn't going to really it wasn't going to be the caliber that I needed. And it was a redirect. So I'm very thankful for even though it was very frustrating at the time. Obviously it it redirected me to where I was supposed to be so maybe not hurdle but a redirection and I'm very thankful for it.

Grace Oben: 00:08:51

You know, I believe that every everyone who is in in business have a website story. I also have I also have a website I have a similar story. On mine, the person didn't disappear. It was more like the build the website. One month later, the website was suspended. And I reached out I was going on I just wanted to login to check something and my website is gonna take care of it. And then it got fixed two weeks later right so I reached out to me say Hey, Chris, I wanted to like you know, check out something your website but I got there your website is suspended I call Okay, I'll look into it. And finally the website was suspended like permanently to this day. And then finally Oh, we just started all over building something new. I'm like, You know what, now? I don't know what you guys did back then that makes wild that makes Google to suspend outright I just move on. So let's talk about where you are. You were talking at the beginning, you spoke about magnetizing, attracting, you know, what you want and all those things. So I just want to find out from you, what do you think? mindset and belief systems play in attracting your dream life? And how do you work on strengthening your, your mindset, your belief systems and stuff like that?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:10:30

Well, it's, this is kind of a weird analogy, but it feels like it really, really sinks in. And so basically, I'm doing the mindset work and the inner work and that type of thing, like what role it plays. If you make the outside shiny and the inside is full of garbage, you are not going to get what you want out of life. And so your outer or your inner world, is what creates your outer world. And so I often think of a compost bin that is full of vegetables, and you can shine the outside all you want. But if you don't clean on the inside and do the work on the inside, it doesn't matter how much work you do on the outside. So I have spent the last two or three years working so hard on the inside, and I've changed my life, like who I was years ago, two and a half years ago is a completely different person. And so I know like I say, not becoming who couldn't handle the stresses of this business, the heaviness of this business, the decisions, all of that, I could not have done that without doing the work without having created this person. And so the mindset is everything. Like, it's everything. And we've talked about this earlier before we started, but it's absolutely everything. And so how I implement that in my life, what I do, I'm actually currently on my, I think third annual women's group that I host every January, and it's called warrior unleashed. And so every January, I host this group for women, and we do cold plunges. We do like workouts, journaling, all that thing, all that stuff. And we have six goals on leash,

Tirzah Adrian: 00:12:15

Warrior unleashed,

Tirzah Adrian: 00:12:18

Warrior Unleashed, who have goals of achieve together every day and do check ins and all of that. And cold water has transformed my life, which sounds crazy, but it's true. And there are so many women that have come through my program, that it just completely changes their lives. So I my main business is WAPA fie and swapping and bartering but because my life has been changed by the inner work, I do a little bit of mindset coaching on the side to specifically with these warrior programs. So all that to say my main thing that I do, I'm on day 315 of cold plunging every single day. And that has transformed my life. And I think the biggest reason is if I can handle that I can handle anything. And so when I get in that cold water, it's painful, it's sucks, it's hard. But I have become someone that I believe in because of that. So it doesn't have to be a cold plunge. But honestly, pick something and do it every day for a year until you believe in yourself. That's probably the biggest thing that has gotten me to this point.

Grace Oben: 00:13:29

That's so amazing. My own is more like I decided to commit to waking early in the morning. Before I used to be known as my friends who even call me sleeping head when I love sleeping in. And you rarely say when pick one thing that is especially something that is really hard, something that is difficult, if it's exercise, you know, pick something that is hard to do that is not like so natural or comfortable to do and then just just keep doing it and doing it. The fear is that you won't only have the result from what you're doing. But again, we'll go back to that becoming right. becoming the person you become in the process make the whole difference. You know, some people will say attitude is everything. I said no mindset is everything. Because if you have the right mindset, you have the right attitude. It's just it's just as simple as that. So what is the most your most favorable or memorable failure you've ever experienced? And how did it shape your your path as a person?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:14:49

That's, well, it's a little bit of a tough one because I don't believe in failure, kind of like you mentioned and how I take that is I remember sitting on my bed right before I even decided to leave launch my business. And I had a moment of fear. And I was like, what if I fail? Like, what is this just doesn't work. And instantly, I remembered this quote that said, like, you cannot fail if you don't quit. I'm like, Okay, well, if I don't quit, try, I can't fail. Okay, that's simple. I can do that. So what have I failed at? I've had redirections, like I mentioned, but I haven't failed because I haven't quit. But that is different than who I used to be. And before the cold plunges before this journey, in the last three years that I've been on of doing inner work, I was a quitter. So if someone's listening to this, like, Oh, she's, she's tough. She can do cold plunges whatever, she doesn't quit. Like, don't build me up to be this person that I, I've not always been like this. Like, I used to quit everything I started, I used to not believe in myself. And so becoming someone that is worth believing in someone that I can believe in. So I don't really believe in failure, per se. hurdles, I've had discouragements but not failures.

Grace Oben: 00:16:10

So I like I like how you describe it as redirection. And that's one of the most beautiful way to describe to describe when things get to a point where it doesn't, it doesn't look like you're getting the result that you thought you'd be getting at that point. Right? And then to instead of calling it failure you call a redirection, or feedback, I think I think it's just amazing. You know, like I said, like, just going back to say, Okay, what am I missing? This is something I'm missing? Do I need to do some more homework? Do I need to search research more on this thing? Do I need to take some more courses online? Or in person? Do I need to hire a coach? Do I need to reach out to someone who has walked this path? Before to help guide me? Right?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:17:02

Yeah, well, honestly, speaking of like, reaching out to other people, I want to interject right there, there's been, it's taken me a while to learn this. But when I have a really big decision to make, or something really tough, or something that appears might like it might be a failure, redirection, hurdle, whatever you want to call it. I, my first reaction was usually okay, I should call this person or call that person. And I started to really just stop myself and realize, I have the answer inside of me. And so I have to quiet my mind and go meditate. And I know I will get the answer. So fitting, that's what it is. And I know I can get that clarity when I get quiet. So it might be a course it might be asking someone else, or it might be just getting quiet and hearing the answer. So that's another big thing that I do.

Grace Oben: 00:17:53

That's amazing. I like that, you know, searching on the inside, and just say, okay, you've done this before, you've been here, maybe you're not with the same project. But you've overcome things. So you overcome this. So just take a moment and think and reflect and just meditate, just give yourself a moment to just think about the things. I love that. So will you will you say your app is the most courageous decision you've ever taken, building your app.

Tirzah Adrian: 00:18:25

So I feel like it's a combination of the creating the business. But prior to doing this, I was a paramedic, I had a steady income. I, you know, showed up to work, I did my job. And I came home and had a paycheck. And so walking away from that might have been the most craziest, craziest decision. But there's kind of been steps of me letting that go. And so I quit my job. And that was huge. Like, I worked so hard to get that job, to do the schooling, to compete against all the other people that wanted that job, and I got the job. And then to get the full time spot like it was years of a process. And then to let it go, that was like so hard. And then the next step was letting my license go. And I just did that a few months ago. And that was so emotional. Because the biggest thing was I just cut off my safety net. And I don't believe I don't believe in Plan B, not the pregnancy thing. But like having a backup plan. I don't believe in having a backup plan. Because he's always think it was great. So I had two business ideas. I'm like, Okay, if I kind of like feed both, then if one doesn't work, the other one will, but heard someone say this and it was the best thing I've ever heard. He said, What if you had a marriage, but then just in case that didn't work? You had a boyfriend on the side? Well, your marriage is not going to work if you do that. Right. I know. Right. So I don't believe in a backup plan, because that's the boyfriend of your marriage. And I got rid of my license. Because that was a safety net backup plan. If my business didn't work, so I don't have a backup plan, I don't have a safety net. And that is 100% the most craziest thing I've ever done more than starting a business, because I believe in the business, I believe in myself, but letting that go, was really difficult, but I knew it was the right thing to do. So

Grace Oben: 00:20:31

Having a plan B is like having a boyfriend outside of your mind. Like you're going into marriage. I like I'm just gonna keep this my boyfriend here in case this fall back on. That's like, I have never heard anyone describe it like that, like, man, that's really cool. Because then you're not giving your all in whatever you're doing

Tirzah Adrian: 00:20:59

all your energy into money. Yeah. Yeah.

Grace Oben: 00:21:03

Because you know, oh, there's something I can always fall back on. So because of that you are not fully present in whatever you're doing. Because you keep thinking of I have a plan B, I have a backup plan. I have a backup plan. In case this doesn't work. Can you imagine getting into something I already say in case it doesn't work? I have a backup plan. It's never gonna work. Exactly. It's never gonna work. Because as rallies oh my god, I love that analogy. Like, wow, I hope everyone heard that. And okay, and now you talk how you a paramedic, you know, sometimes when you talk to people about pursuing their dream, their vision, and they say, oh, safety, safety, my job is my safety. And there is no safety in having a job because you can be let go at any day, any time. It doesn't feel real. any day, any time. Nobody prays for that. But it does happen. So when someone feels like instead of taking that step to build something for themselves of their own, they feel safe. Staying in a job. It's almost like think about the UAE parameters for goodness sake. Like for real. I can imagine what it what it might feel like to walk out of some that's something that some people are dreaming to get into. They look at you, you took the bold step and you just keep going. That's amazing.

Tirzah Adrian: 00:22:44

Yeah, I think so entrepreneur is like a combo of ain't crazy and insane and driven and whatever.

Grace Oben: 00:22:54

But you know, the beauty about it. There's a level you get where your dream, your vision becomes like a burden. When nothing you see, the only thing you see is that dream is that vision that it doesn't matter what you have. And that doesn't mean that the press someone has been ungrateful it just because you've grown past, whatever you have, no matter how big that thing is. When you get to that point where all you think is this vision, it becomes like so heavy in your heart, where you can't even appreciate what you have. Right now because you've been ungrateful but because you saw taking by that vision, that dream that all you think of all you talk about is that dream. That's the point where you get where you make that tough decision to say you know what I'm going to So John, I'm gonna have some bruises but you're gonna heal. And those car this car from those bruises will remind me how I started or how far I have gone, right?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:24:04

Yes, exactly.

Grace Oben: 00:24:06

So tell me how do you stay focused and motivated because there are challenges in been in business being an entrepreneur in everything we do, but how do you remain focus? And really just keep going with earn no matter what happened? No matter what challenge no matter what I'll say speed bomb you meet or, or stop sound? How do you stay focused and motivated?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:24:39

I feel like part of the blessing of getting rid of your safety net is you don't have a choice, but to focused and to keep it going. So it's not like I can just say well, I tried it for a while and I'm done. No. There is no other option. And so as far as focusing truthfully, half our time with focus in a daily life because I have two tiny little boys that love to distract me. But in general, just as far as focusing on my end goal and I'm, I lost my dad recently. And he is sorry. He is a lot of the inspiration behind this, because like I said, he taught me how to trade, he taught me how to swap, he proved to us that you could feed your family through trading and swapping. And I feel like I'm carrying on his vision and dream of just sharing that with people. And it's not that I'm doing it for him. But it's a it's a dream we both are passionate about. And I'm doing it in different way in a modern way. And he did it in our tiny little town. And he was known across Canada, in his business, but he was incredible. And it was truly because he cared about people. But all that to say I caught the bug of the passion of just seeing how happy people can be with a trade. And it might seem silly, but I mean, everyone is so financially stressed, everyone is worried about inflation and where they're going to get their kids birthday present or wanting to just have some luxuries like getting your hair done, or your nails done here, your house cleaned. But the guilt that comes with that of spending money. And I have traded, I can't even list all the things but to name a few. I've traded for my cut and colors. I've traded for my house to be deep cleaned. I've traded for babysitting, I've traded for diapers. And so when you see that relief on people's faces, it really is so worth it. And knowing that I can help people have those connections, save them some money, like financial stress is one of the worst stressors, you truly is. And I want to be able to help people believe that in a different way that isn't boring, more money, working harder getting another job. So that focusing on that passion and that why behind it isn't 100% Why they focused and then just remembering my dad in that because he would be so happy if he knew, you know, I believe that he can see me and looks down on me and that kind of thing. But if he was here, like he would be doing this with me, he'd be so excited. So that's kind of the long version

Grace Oben: 00:27:37

on my head and my heart goes to you. Yeah, I'm sure he's, he's in place in this restaurant where he is and just looking up and just smiling a chair, looking down and just smiling chip is happy with this amazing daughter that he think he raised. And thank you for sharing that. I know that must have been really tough. So are there any specific rituals or routines that you practice on a regular basis that really helps you stay aligned with your dream and everything you do?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:28:20

That's a really good question. Um, I feel like I'm repeating some answers. And that's fine. But my whole point is I cannot say enough good about them. Oh 100% I Copeland every single day. And that is my consistency. And that is like it raises your mood extremely like it gets you refocused it. Like it's so incredible. And so 100% my cold plunging, I do my best to meditate every day working out every day, obviously, like the just the typical things that keep you healthy person, but

Tirzah Adrian: 00:29:05

I don't know if I have anything else to add to that one. But that's just kind of what I do in a day. That helps me just stay stay believing in myself really is what it is. And that just overflows on top of life. So yeah,

Grace Oben: 00:29:18

I think I'm gonna try some of that I've never done it. I just feel like so as against Josh could shut I'm gonna try this just like so much.

Tirzah Adrian: 00:29:32

It's so interesting. Yeah, I've had so many people come up to me, I would die. And it goes back to my, your mindset. Your body can handle it, but it's your mindset. And that's 100% why I started and after I started I realized how many health benefits there were that I didn't realize but I only did it because of the mindset like just to do something mentally hard. So when you go to lunch in the morning There's nothing else in your day, that's going to be harder than, like, very little, like, there might be something but I'm just saying, like, you can get through that you can get through anything. So it's, it's just a really good way to start your day. And the reason I started was there are so many people that I look up to that do it every single day. And I'm like, you know, I am striving to be like them. Success leaves clues, I'm going to do what they do. So

Grace Oben: 00:30:28

So what are some of the health benefits to it? Well,

Tirzah Adrian: 00:30:31

so after you cold plunge, you get a dopamine release that lasts about three to four hours. That is the equivalent to doing cocaine. I've never done cocaine. But I've been told scientifically, the high from cocaine lasts about nine minutes. And from a cold plunge, it lasts three to four hours. So there are so many times where I get into my cold plunge. And I am like, giddy, giggling literally bounce up and down, because I am so just excited and happy and so high, I call it my cost plunge high. But it literally is what I would imagine a high would feel like, so you get that boost. And then also, just the overall mental health benefits are incredible. There it is the absolute best thing that you can do. Regarding weight loss, it's better than any workout that you can possibly do. Because, you

Grace Oben: 00:31:27

know, I'm considering doing it.

Tirzah Adrian: 00:31:29

I know a lot of women say okay, I mean when I tell them that. But a calorie is a measure of heat in your body. And so when a heat leaves your body calories leave your body. So after about two weeks of doing it, my whole body was shrinking. And I had no idea what was going on. I didn't start for that reason. But it literally was like melting the fat off for me. So that's one reason one other thing, increased circulation. Like, there's just so many, there's so many benefits. So yeah, but I always come back to saying that the best one is the fact that I believe in myself now. So that's, that's the biggest thing that I've gotten that record wondering,

Grace Oben: 00:32:12

I'm gonna try it for real. I'm gonna try. And I'll let you know how it goes.

Grace Oben: 00:32:19

So what advice would you give? So there are people listening to other? What advice would you give someone who is listening to us, and maybe they are in the winter of their life, or follow their life, and they're considering really taking a bold step in whatever direction whether it's, you know, quitting your job to follow the dream, or starting a business, or just going through life and things are just so difficult. And they're kind of just feeling like, what have I done? Is this whole world against me? Or they just need some inspiration to say, hey, go for what you want, follow your heart, just go for it, you're going to make some mistakes, or you're going to learn. So what advice can you give someone like that?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:33:13

There's, I feel like there's so many things to pick one is a little hard. However, probably what I would say is, like we've talked about doing the inner work, assuming someone already had that space where you know, they've done the inner work, they're not thinking of themselves as a victim, you're not going to get anywhere, thinking of yourself as a victim. If you still feel that way, go and do some inner work, figure some stuff out, and then come back and, you know, go after your dreams. But I was once told that one person in alignment is more powerful than millions out of alignment. So if you can do everything you can to be your best. We're not all none of us always stay in alignment, but do what you need to do to stay in alignment, and then make a decision and then just take action. Like I cannot tell you and this blows my mind to this day. I cannot tell you how many people I have told about my business. And they're like, I had that idea a couple years ago, I had that idea five years ago. I'm like, What do you mean new artists five years ago? Why the hell isn't there a business out here then, like, don't take action, they had the same idea. But they don't take action. So get aligned, and then take some action because that is the biggest thing that is missing for people. And as you said, like getting that feedback of failure. Like, I didn't know what the heck I was doing when I started and in so many ways. I still don't. But I took action because the thought of not taking action made me sick to my stomach and so I just did it. So get aligned. And then just do it and figure it out as you go. I heard someone say that. Being an entrepreneur is like jumping out of an airplane and building your parachute on the way down. I'm not very much. But it's basically what it is. But you jump in, you'll, you'll get caught. At some point someone will catch you.

Grace Oben: 00:35:12

So that's so good. I think, as you rightly said, the inner work starting to do starting, start doing the inner work is so important because I think that's because there's nothing like there's nothing that can hold someone back like an internal when they have an internal conflict, starting to do the inner work. And then just being really clear of what you want, like, what do I really want, you know, be really clear about that. And fall in love with that dream with that vision, and become start seeing you live in the life doing that thing. And then take it from there. As you rightly said, there's so much one can do better thing started with doing that in our work, because until we take care of that, those limiting beliefs, those impostor syndrome, take care of all those strongholds, it's hard to really take inspired steps or actions. So I like I like that, just just do it. Just Just do it. Like just jump. Jad, you have some bruises, beds, the bruises are gonna heal, you're not gonna die from them. Nobody had died for me. So if someone wants to, even before I asked that, is there any new project in the pipeline? Because I know you are a big, big Project Dream builder, like you are so into the gym beauty lifestyle? So is there any anything anything that you're working on?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:36:51

I'm working on? Well, yes, sir. It is. And I actually actually hesitated to do this podcast because what I'm working on is so big, that it will be a completely different podcast, like it'll have a different twist. When we speak again. And then you said you could just invite me back, which is so kind of you. So yes, I'm definitely working on something. Basically, what I can tell you is, about two months ago, I got to a point where I was, I was broken is not the right word discouraged, and saying, I need clear direction, like give me clear direction for this specific thing. And I cry, and I just said, Show me what to do in this area regarding my business. And within a few days, I got an answer. And it is mind blowing. It is nothing I've ever thought of before it is like you literally won't believe me when I tell you when I can finally tell you. It's crazy. It's so beautiful. And so I'm working on that it's probably a few weeks away from being able to announce publicly, but it's going to be huge. So I'm Ron,

Grace Oben: 00:38:01

I want to back because I want to know what that is. I wanna I want to know, and I want our listener to also know what that is. So I will definitely have you back. Yeah, you know, you. And, you know, a lot of people might not know about your app. And it's such a brilliant idea. So how can they find you if someone wants to find you? If they want to know about more about your app, your trading app? How can they find you?

Tirzah Adrian: 00:38:28

Yeah so, you can look up my name on Facebook, or you can look up my business website is probably the easiest because there is a link to the app, whether it's Apple or Android within the website and the app is free. So you can download it, it functions kind of like marketplace or Kijiji where you scroll through, see what you want, see what you need and then offer someone what you have in exchange. So it's just Kijiji, but no price takes. So if you go to my webpage, www.zwapifi.ca That is where you can get the app for free. Or you can look it up on the app store as well. And then you can follow me online if you like just for more updates. I will be announcing online once I am able to announce things. So if we follow the business to stay tuned and get updates.

Grace Oben: 00:39:19

I'm really excited. I look forward to that I really want to know and I'm definitely going to bring you back because I want our listener to know what that is so that they can take advantage of it. So hey, beautiful people. So we've come to the end of this episode. And it's been amazing. And thank you so much Tirzah, for coming on. And it's been amazing. Again, it's your girl Grace Oben. And this was, this is Magnetized. See you next week. Take care bye